66.67% agree

33.33% disagree

Graham wins

Graham reckons... It's not lack of work it's lack of payment that's bringing the country to it's knees

I work for myself and I've never been busier, but can I get clients to pay me inside 30 days? Can I @#%$ !

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Posted 17th Oct 08 at 11:02

Voting ended: 14th Nov 08 at 11:02

88.89% agree

11.11% disagree

HughJarse wins

HughJarse reckons... That I.T is a tool of the devil and was put on this earth to punish innocent people for wanting to turn their backs on pen and paper

I manage the application from hell.....

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Posted 18th Jul 08 at 19:51

Voting ended: 21st Jul 08 at 19:51

86.96% agree

13.04% disagree

cedric wins

cedric thinks... public sector workers should be happy with their 2.5% say rise and should not go on strike. We are in a downturn in the economy and they should be happy with what they get especially when some in the private sector will get no pay rise..

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Biff says... Hear, hear, CoS.
Posted 18th Jul 08 at 15:57
Cat of Schrodinger says... ...If you want your finances to plod along slowly but more safely, work in the public sector. Public sector workers deserve the pay increase now to compensate for losing out whilst everyone else has made hay over the last 10 years.
Posted 18th Jul 08 at 14:34
Cat of Schrodinger says... ...and lucrative share schemes. I think it comes down more to state of mind. If you like a higher risk / reward then work in the private sector, but you have to accept then that during economic slowdown things won' t be so good...
Posted 18th Jul 08 at 14:33
Cat of Schrodinger says... Public sector workers stay on the same old 2.5% pay rise year after year, during boom or bust. They contribute a large proportion of their income to final salary pension schemes. During economic boomtimes, private sector workers can look forward to good pay increases and bonuses...
Posted 18th Jul 08 at 14:29
Colin says... Good point Baz
Posted 18th Jul 08 at 13:24
Barry says... Whilst many public sector workers are well paid & have final salary pension schemes at the public's expense, do bear a thought for the very low paid and the impact on them of rising fuel, food and mortgage costs. The unions should be campaigning for them and not for all their public sector members.
Posted 17th Jul 08 at 16:44
Millie says... Frankly, they should be grateful they are getting anything. Heading into a recession people should be more worried about potentially losing their jobs rather than whether they have had a large enough pay rise.
Posted 17th Jul 08 at 13:26
Graham says... Welcome Cedric. I'm self employed and my business is under strain with a projection of around 10% down on turnover compared to last year. Everyone is feeling the pinch. Time for us all to pull in our horns and weather the storm.
Posted 16th Jul 08 at 19:30
David says... Welcome to J13 Cedric! Yep, asking for more than 2.5% as the whole economy is under strain is just plain wrong. TImes are tough and people have ot accept that. Just a shame the gov didn't do more saving in the good times.
Posted 16th Jul 08 at 18:51
The Phantom says... Hi - Welcome to this crazy site Cedric! Couldn't agree more. Any worker who actually gets a payrise this year should be grateful! Sack'em if they go on strike, that's what I say!
Posted 16th Jul 08 at 18:48

Posted 16th Jul 08 at 18:44

Voting ended: 30th Jul 08 at 18:44

34.62% agree

65.38% disagree

steve loses

steve believes... All employers’ and employees’ earnings should be public knowledge

Ultimately this could lead to a more open and fairer society as the discrepancy in peoples wages would be there for all to see. It would also help combat, sexism, racism, nepotism, classism, favouritism and probably a few other ‘isms’ too.
Employees would have a clearer understanding of how much a company considers you’re worth compared to your colleges.
If you ask me, the less secrecy there is society the better!

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Steve Fecking Lomax says... Interesting,, I think as a general poiunt, I agree with your final point, but can see many dfficulties arising on the flip side of salary deatils being public. I think really this would probably stir up middle and senior management up the most
Posted 13th Jul 08 at 17:22
Cindarella says... I'm not sure. It could start putting people and their families at risk from criminal elements. Better that people don't know how much you earn.
Posted 12th Jul 08 at 20:29
The Phantom says... I bet there would be a few 'fat cats' that would be deeply embarrased!
Posted 12th Jul 08 at 16:45
Graham says... My earnings are avaliable for all to see at companies house. I can see Steve's point, if everyone's salary was public Elvis wouldn't need to feel embarassed.
Posted 12th Jul 08 at 06:48
The Phantom says... Elvis- Why? Feel you get too much? ; )
Posted 11th Jul 08 at 20:28
Elvis says... I would actually be a bit embarrassed if my workmates knew what I earned, I don't really see what good it would do in the private sector.
Posted 11th Jul 08 at 19:06
David says... It's a rel toughee this. I think within private organisations there should be no compulsion, nor do I necessarily think it would be productive. When it comes to civil servants, there is some logic - we pay for them....but I'm still not sure. Great opinion.
Posted 11th Jul 08 at 17:59
dewolfe says... I don't see why it's anyone's business. Talk about classism etc. If people find out you're a millionaire when they thought you were 'average', wouldn't you then be put in a pigeon hole where people would then treat you differently?
Posted 11th Jul 08 at 17:54
dewolfe says... It's not about secrecy, it's about privacy. Unless you're in the public eye where your earnings and benefits could some how be relevant to your decision making and in turn affect others (politicians etc) then….
Posted 11th Jul 08 at 17:54
neverwrong says... Not sure about that one Steve.....if your friends knew (for example) that you were on say 10K more a year than them - they would expect you to get the drinks in! Too much jealousy would arise....making more conflict I think. Up to the individual to declare to everyone I think.
Posted 11th Jul 08 at 17:41

Posted 11th Jul 08 at 17:28

Voting ended: 25th Jul 08 at 17:28

41.67% agree

58.33% disagree

andreajamjar loses

andreajamjar is convinced... That women do not make good boses in the work force.

Correct me if i'm wrong but who has ever worked for a woman and been happy in their job? With male bosses they have one type of personality at work wether it be a good one or bad one you know where you stand, but with a woman boss, jekyl and hide, one minute she's happy with your work, the next you can't do a thing right, she's happy one minute, the next, won't talk to you, women bosses just don't work as a whole!!!

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summerly tortoise says... I agree with you. I have worked for 3 women bosses and all of them were moody back stabbing bitches. Time of the month with is terrible.
Posted 23rd Jul 08 at 20:07
Biff says... In my working life I have had various bosses, most who have been good or mediocre. Of the 2 that were bad, one was male and one was female. I would definitely not wish to see women held back from promotion because some women bosses are rubbish. Some men bosses are rubbish too.
Posted 13th Jul 08 at 15:29
Colin says... That depends how big your boobs are neverwrong
Posted 10th Jul 08 at 13:58
Orange says... I've had some lovely female bosses.
Posted 10th Jul 08 at 13:57
neverwrong says... Yes but if you work for a Male they get side tracked by sex, thinking about sex, or looking at your boobs - so how can the work get done?
Posted 10th Jul 08 at 10:10
Graham says... I've always preferred working for women, most of my career I've been freelance so I'm not sure if 'client' is more appropriate than 'boss', but anyway I've always found women easier to work for
Posted 9th Jul 08 at 21:06
Chuck55 says... Two female bosses Colin style eh Matola? - you've just made my day..... ; )
Posted 9th Jul 08 at 21:04
The Phantom says... Andreajamjar's bang on the money (no Colin, no). They are a nightmare. Much more complicated than men. You can see it in programmes like 'The Apprentice' the men just get on the job (no Colin, no), the women start fighting instantly. Andreajamjar - are you related to the Iranian president?
Posted 9th Jul 08 at 21:00
Matola says... i've worked with 2 women bosses (not in the way Colin has described), both who have been brilliant. I think you have just gotten a little unlucky. I have also worked with crazy men folk who change their minds every 5 minutes about what they want and can't make a decision.
Posted 9th Jul 08 at 20:48
Colin says... Damn, cut off, but anyway she seemed like quite a good boss
Posted 9th Jul 08 at 20:43

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Posted 9th Jul 08 at 20:38

Voting ended: 23rd Jul 08 at 20:38

21.43% agree

78.57% disagree

BusyBee loses

BusyBee thinks... Employers should be allowed to monitor their employees use of the internet and reduce their pay accordingly if they spend too much time on non-work related sites.

Difficult to do probably but so many of my work colleagues seem to spend a lot of time on the internet sorting out non-work stuff. What is wrong with doing that in the evening? Productivity must really have dropped since employees have been given access to the internet and email.

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Posted 7th Jul 08 at 11:26

Voting ended: 21st Jul 08 at 11:26

40% agree

60% disagree

Barry loses

Barry thinks... Young people have enthusiasm and ideas but older people have experience and wisdom. Older people should therefore hold the more senior positions in business.

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Posted 24th May 08 at 17:48

Voting ended: 31st May 08 at 17:48

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